CyclingNews.com forum are busy with a juicy Clinic thread involving Mike Turtur and other senior UCIless officials !
One of the Commenters ,Roland Rat's comment copied here :
"You know what comes up when you google Gropep Australia Turtur?"
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Originally Posted by blackcat 
the insulin growth factor, IGF-1 was from Adelaide, Gropep. Someone needs to ask UCI board member and the promoter of the Tour Down Under, Matt Turtur, how that they are still providing stuff to the Spaniards. First, Operation Puerto, now Operation Greyhound, and the Ozzies are still delivering the dope.
Anyone have Matt Turtur's email address and the gov't that stumps the funding for Armstrong and the TDU?
Should get some dope stuff, and internal dialogue about Armstrong's appearance fees popping up on Wikileaks.
Any Ozzies wish to ask the hard questions?
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Comment 30
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As the article reads: http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/resul...gensep19.shtml
1) Committee Extraordinaire Godkin - President Australian Federation > VP UCI Track
2) Some Australian Gov sports civil servants.
3) Some guy called Mr. Flin - Aus team manager > Left for NZ > UCI training program manager.
The Dutchman after the sale appointed Godkins to VP UCI - what a coincidence. The Dutchman I think was also on the Netherlands Olympic Committee. So does that mean the Australian Olympic Committee financed the supply and provision of equipment to the Netherlands Olympic Team? YES! Where did the Netherlands Olympic Committee funding go?
Comment 28
To obtain drugs you need cash. Civil servants and sports administrators are not going to reach into their own pocket. Most of the associations are near fully government funded. Some associations don't want corporate dollars because: 1) in any sponsorship agreement there is duty of responsibility and care (liability); 2) the association rightfully becomes answerable to the financier (sponsor); 3) the association capax for government funding is reduced proportionally. So the source of funding is BEST from a Government which turns a blind eye. Theory Only: To run drugs you need a mule - here the association is the transaction vehicle with bogus special projects.
Ultimately there has too be finance source and a vehicle. Its a laundry and why the shameful management are so well entrenched is because the 'truth' is their security of tenure and pension.
I suspect there are many nervous people around the world (especially in Australia). And they need to be. The official lies will continue but they have lost control control of the propaganda machine.
Agree … Sportleaks is overdue.
Comment 32
OK, so we have (as pure speculation of course, not suggesting this is true...):
1. Australia provides funding to CA for a technology development program that has already finished and was already funded.
2. Turtur obtains drugs from Gropep for both the Australian and Dutch programmes, using the CA money.
3. Turtur, Godkin, Michael Flynn and selected others sell CA's technology in breach of licence, and probably drugs obtained from Gropep, to Holland through The Dutchman (?), probably with Hein's involvement, for a nominal fee from Holland's government funding.
4. The money raised from the above sales disappears, probably into individual hands.
5. The Dutch funding that would otherwise be used for equipment development etc that is no longer needed is diverted into the hands on the Dutch side of things.
6. Later on, Turtur becomes UCI Oceania president. Godking becomes UCI VP, and Flynn is placed on the NZ Olympic Committee after Hein becomes head of the IOC.
Comment 37
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The story started last December when Van Moorsel was out in Australia to check out the road and the time trial course. Godkin personally took her round each, and she was less than pleased with the parcours. "Too many corners," she said at the time and decided to concentrate on the track.
A trip out to the newly finished Dunc Gray Velodrome was in order, and Leontien was immediately impressed with the track. "She loved it," said Godkin who added that she also tried out Rochelle Gilmore's Sal Sansonetti/Brian Hayes designed BT track bike.
"We stuck her on, and she trained with her husband on the track. 30 minutes later, we couldn't get her off! She loved the bike and the track, and wanted one to ride. Sal Sansonetti and Brian Hayes arranged to build one for her, but with her own sponsor on the bike," said Godkin. Text from here: http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/resul...gensep19.shtml
This says Godkin made the arrangement's. But Godkin was also the Australian Cycling Federation President at the time. What was he doing showing off Australias new bike anyway? Considering the news article says Cycling Australia (Godkin President) obtained the money from the Australian Olympic Council its even more weird. Like I said before this is like showing off the winged keel before the event. Then he arranged the sale to the Netherlands competition with 'sponsors' markings ready painted. If one considers the Australian Olympic Council and IOC raises its finances from sponsor sales and protects its sponsor rights by banning illegal branding and advertising on sports equipments (including sponsor markings) then who permitted KOGA bicycles for competition? Godkin? His own words are Koga is "sponsor" - thats illegal and not permitted at Olympic events. Does this mean Playboy.com Corporation could buy a bicycle from Godkin, sponsor a athlete and go to the Olympics for a meagre cost of $5400 - thats gorilla marketing and mass media exposure at its best.
The event just gets more disturbing. http://www.uci.ch/templates/UCI/UCI1...I2NzI&LangId=1 Godkin’s UCI profile !
Comment 39
Who is this "Adelaide Group" ? Any relation to the allegations of South Australian PEDs being in Spain?
Possibly an administrator who happens to be climbing the UCI ranks, and runs a World Tour race?
Wtf, CA/ASC approached someone to design/produce a helmet, only to ignore and abandon them nine months later. Going behind RMIT's back whilst still in a contract with them. Pope designs a bike, is holder of the design/manufacturing IP, with BT only allowed to produce what was required by the track team. But then BT goes and sells bikes overseas to other teams, rebadged. 400k funding from the Australian Olympic Committee "missing".
Comment 40
Australian Government and Cycling Australia officials worked to ban the old Superbike!!!! The Superbike was a Australian Government deal with a University funded by government funds. This smells of flagrant corruption.
I heard BT is a Australian Government brand mark anyway Its simple whats happened here. Cycling Australia, AIS and this BT person in Melbourne passed off somebodies elses designs to get money from the Olympic Council and the Australian Government: All done in breach of contract with the University and the designer of the current bike as used by Koga and others. WTF - UCI bought bikes and guess which Australians arranged that deal I wonder, Godkin? I wonder who arranged the Koga bikes? UCI President?
I hear the Adelaide Group is in fact public official staff at the AIS.
Just disgusting and fraud. I pity the people who bought these bikes as it seems they are all fakes. Yes I read the helmet story. Seems to me a foul culture of sports business is the norm in Australia.
Comment 45
Am I reading right? Cycling Australia voted to ban the Superbike style bicycles resulting in the disqualification of the old RMIT Superbike product which was financed and co-owned by the Australian Government department called the AIS. So in effect Cycling Australia sabotaged and destroyed a business co-owned by its sole financier being the AIS (a Government department)!!!!!!! Therefore, in effect the AIS disqualified itself and in doing so conspired to damage and destroy its own commercial relationship and obligations with RMIT University. Where does this end. Its doesn't. The story reads Pope designed the bicycle in 1997 and neither RMIT University or Pope knew about each others contracts with the AIS. But clearly the AIS knew it had duped both parties and committed contract breaches because its a party to both. Your need to be a cryptology expert to decipher how the Australian government does business. Finally, the AIS funds BT to manufacture a bicycle designed by Pope yet lists BT as a sponsor (paid sponsorship - paid marketing). To close the transaction round BT and Cycling Australia source 424,000 dollars from the Australian Olympic body to allegedly design a new bike which in reality was already designed by Pope. Then, before supplying the Australian athletes their kit Cycling Australia and BT first supply and sell to the competition being New Zealand, Netherlands, China and USA and every dog in the street and in breach of the contract with Pope. Australia athletes loose (Koga & NL wins), AIS assists the competition and a fortune is made while RMIT, Pope and Davies are left out of pocket.
Its seems to me Cycling Australia and AIS are in cohorts raping and pillaging everybody they touch - RMIT, Davies, Pope, Australian Olympic body and finally the Government bank account. The problem is not the sport, its the officialdom and management.
Comment 50
This is like the triple whammy of scandals. We have people ripping off a bike designer by selling unauthorized copies of his design, self-dealing insiders funneling government money into their own pockets, and the government being defrauded into paying for the research and development of a product that already existed.
And I thought USA Cycling was corrupt.
Comment 52 is interesting as it comes from the Gold Coast :
Glad you put this forward, I was listening to radio national yesterday when this was aired and am glad that it is being scrutinised. (Not sure how or why you got wind of it in Munich? But , well done.)
This was in response to an earlier comment:
Originally Posted by WW-Wolfgang Walter
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/rearvision/...11/3166343.htm
The plot just thickens. This is a blatant crime
Comment 53
A associate from Australia msg me the podcast link. I got more incoming but the complexity is weird without the names of the persons involved. I am more interested about UCI hierarchy implicated or parties to the sales to UCI and NL Koga - what role did the UCI President & VP have in this Its becoming obvious all these officials had a conflict of interest and what if any commissions were paid and to whom.
With my 20bit/sec u/load & d/load i have little luck with podcasts so i can offer little .
THREAD on CNF clinic is on page 6 , link is : http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=11799&page=6
WE live in interesting times !
Fabian and Frank did well today so IF there are more conspiracy theories in the "pipeline" we will hear of the " new motors" their team is using in the next days ! Seems like the "bearings story" has died from lack of interest .
These stories remind me of Mike Moore the American of "TV nation " fame ! Having read that book and "downsize this" this week together with bill Bryson's "the thunderbolt kid" and following the media reports from Japan and Libya i am wondering what other controversies will raise their head above the parapet in the near future .
Walking each day has kept my fitness levels high but not being allowed to ride the bike with all the sunny weather we are enjoying lately is a bitter pill . Embolisms are not to be taken lightly but am hoping that 4 hrs a day uphill as well as on the flat will allow me to be at the Giro with the bike . I plan to cycle the flats there so as to be fit for the TDF .
28/03/11 Check out Skippi-cyclist for a new post regarding "stolen bikes"!
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